Best way to build a new blog network.
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- EthnicLover
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Best way to build a new blog network.
I have a few questions about the best way(s) to build a new blog network that will serve as link bait for a money site(s). I have seen some traders with large blog networks setting up their networks in different ways.
Webmaster #1: This webmaster has over 80 blogs and links between some of them (from 30 to 50 different blogs linking out and in) but does not interlink between all of their blogs. It seems that this webmaster takes a newer site and adds it into one of these blog networks and within a short period of time has created a healthy amount of backlinks for the new site. The blogs are also within different niches. It is also worth mentioning that almost all of their blogs have PR, with many having PR 2.
Webmaster #2: This webmaster has a 70 plus size blog network that interlinks all 70 plus sites on each blog within the network. There are much less sites with PR than the first webmaster.
Webmaster #3: This webmaster has 40 blogs and none of them interlink. The majority of their blogs have PR. I have seen a few webmasters with medium to large size blog networks who do not interlink their blogs.
All of these webmasters have hidden sites, which I assume are their money sites that are outside these networks. Also, all of the blogs from the above webmasters are updated at least once a month.
Which is the better strategy; to interlink some or all of a new blog network or not? Will the strength of all those backlinks better serve you for offering link bait, regardless of all the cross linking?
Webmaster #1: This webmaster has over 80 blogs and links between some of them (from 30 to 50 different blogs linking out and in) but does not interlink between all of their blogs. It seems that this webmaster takes a newer site and adds it into one of these blog networks and within a short period of time has created a healthy amount of backlinks for the new site. The blogs are also within different niches. It is also worth mentioning that almost all of their blogs have PR, with many having PR 2.
Webmaster #2: This webmaster has a 70 plus size blog network that interlinks all 70 plus sites on each blog within the network. There are much less sites with PR than the first webmaster.
Webmaster #3: This webmaster has 40 blogs and none of them interlink. The majority of their blogs have PR. I have seen a few webmasters with medium to large size blog networks who do not interlink their blogs.
All of these webmasters have hidden sites, which I assume are their money sites that are outside these networks. Also, all of the blogs from the above webmasters are updated at least once a month.
Which is the better strategy; to interlink some or all of a new blog network or not? Will the strength of all those backlinks better serve you for offering link bait, regardless of all the cross linking?
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- girlfactory
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Re: Best way to build a new blog network.
I've found that my attempts at SEO take about a month to result in a penalty from Google, so I would recommend the link strategies on free sites before attempting it on a money site.
Different niches in adult don't matter to Google, but they do for the human user, so click through might be a problem for #1. Imagine a lesbian fan seeing a penis, or a teen fan seeing granny porn, Ew gross! That's one way to drive away traffic.
Google, if discovered, may penalize a link wheel, the "network that interlinks all 70". #2 might be a problem.
#3 Looks the best. Use these for link trades. Experiment linking these sites to a free site, and check that sites analytics for positive or negative results for a few months. If Google doesn't penalize that site, it should be safe to swap it out for the money site.
Different niches in adult don't matter to Google, but they do for the human user, so click through might be a problem for #1. Imagine a lesbian fan seeing a penis, or a teen fan seeing granny porn, Ew gross! That's one way to drive away traffic.
Google, if discovered, may penalize a link wheel, the "network that interlinks all 70". #2 might be a problem.
#3 Looks the best. Use these for link trades. Experiment linking these sites to a free site, and check that sites analytics for positive or negative results for a few months. If Google doesn't penalize that site, it should be safe to swap it out for the money site.
- EthnicLover
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Re: Best way to build a new blog network.
Why would Google penalize you for doing SEO to your sites?
Why would you recommend applying link strategies on free hosts before applying them to a TLD or paid site?
The blog networks are not necessarily where the sales are going to be made, those are for link bait, therefore click through rates might not be as important.
Any potential punishment by Google will likely not affect the money sites, because the blog network is not linking directly to the money sites. The webmaster I used as an example is making sales in his network, of which some of the blogs are interlinked.
You can't "swap out" a free hosted site for a money site because all of the links you have garnered through Linkspun are already set up to point to the free hosted site. You would have to cancel all of those trades and then set up new ones with the money site.
Why would you recommend applying link strategies on free hosts before applying them to a TLD or paid site?
The blog networks are not necessarily where the sales are going to be made, those are for link bait, therefore click through rates might not be as important.
Any potential punishment by Google will likely not affect the money sites, because the blog network is not linking directly to the money sites. The webmaster I used as an example is making sales in his network, of which some of the blogs are interlinked.
You can't "swap out" a free hosted site for a money site because all of the links you have garnered through Linkspun are already set up to point to the free hosted site. You would have to cancel all of those trades and then set up new ones with the money site.
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- girlfactory
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Re: Best way to build a new blog network.
Disclaimer: I don't consider myself an expert in SEO, but I have made some discoveries in my mistakes at attempting SEO. Take my advice with a grain of salt.
On Page:
Invisible Text: Both accidental and my mistake. Because I don't know how to use CSS. I put black text on a black backround. It looked fine with the style sheet, but invisible without it.
Keyword Spam: because of the repetitive nature of adult image content, the text descriptions became repetitive, and looked more like keyword spam.
Off Page:
Reciprocal Linking: between all-girl-action.com and the blog from thumblogger.
blog from the network -> someone else's website -> the money site
As long as Google sees one way linking, everything should be ok.
One way looks like:
Site 1 -> Site 2 ->Site 3
Reciprocal looks like:
Site 1 <-> Site 2
or
Site 1 -> Site 2 ->Site 3 -> Site 1
But you are right, about not being able to swap free sites, if other parties are involved.
My main site, all-girl-action.com, started in April 2010, and has been penalized for both on and off page SEO at least 3 times. I have been filing reconsideration requests with Google for each incident of a penalty.EthnicLover wrote:Why would Google penalize you for doing SEO to your sites?
On Page:
Invisible Text: Both accidental and my mistake. Because I don't know how to use CSS. I put black text on a black backround. It looked fine with the style sheet, but invisible without it.
Keyword Spam: because of the repetitive nature of adult image content, the text descriptions became repetitive, and looked more like keyword spam.
Off Page:
Reciprocal Linking: between all-girl-action.com and the blog from thumblogger.
Experiments in link strategies are more expensive, should the paid sites be penalized. And time consuming if you file reconsideration requests with Google, and fix both failed on and off page SEO attempts. If the experiment proves succesful, it should be safe to apply the link strategy to the paid sites.EthnicLover wrote:Why would you recommend applying link strategies on free hosts before applying them to a TLD or paid site?
What do you mean by link bait?EthnicLover wrote:The blog networks are not necessarily where the sales are going to be made, those are for link bait, therefore click through rates might not be as important.
Is this what you mean?EthnicLover wrote:Any potential punishment by Google will likely not affect the money sites, because the blog network is not linking directly to the money sites.
blog from the network -> someone else's website -> the money site
As long as Google sees one way linking, everything should be ok.
Interlinking one way should be safe. Reciprocal linking is the one to avoid.EthnicLover wrote:The webmaster I used as an example is making sales in his network, of which some of the blogs are interlinked.
One way looks like:
Site 1 -> Site 2 ->Site 3
Reciprocal looks like:
Site 1 <-> Site 2
or
Site 1 -> Site 2 ->Site 3 -> Site 1
If the sites are yours, in the link scheme, you can swap.EthnicLover wrote:You can't "swap out" a free hosted site for a money site because all of the links you have garnered through Linkspun are already set up to point to the free hosted site. You would have to cancel all of those trades and then set up new ones with the money site.
But you are right, about not being able to swap free sites, if other parties are involved.
Re: Best way to build a new blog network.
Really, everyone does their link schemes differently and I can tell you if someone tells theirs is the best one they're full of it. Absolutely full of it. There are too many factors involved for a linking scheme to work exactly the same for everyone. Your Mileage May Vary.
Personally, as I add outside trades to a site I decrease the amount of links to to it from my own network slightly. I prefer niche to niche trades within my network or closely related niches so while I may add (my) links to a new site to help get it indexed at first as the site starts getting traffic I slowly drop back to more relevant links to it..........but many people say adult links are adult links in terms of SEO.
The question of whether to not link your sites together at all largely rests on the quality of your trades from other webmasters.......and whether you want to let them have all your traffic.......as opposed to keeping some in your network.
Personally, as I add outside trades to a site I decrease the amount of links to to it from my own network slightly. I prefer niche to niche trades within my network or closely related niches so while I may add (my) links to a new site to help get it indexed at first as the site starts getting traffic I slowly drop back to more relevant links to it..........but many people say adult links are adult links in terms of SEO.
The question of whether to not link your sites together at all largely rests on the quality of your trades from other webmasters.......and whether you want to let them have all your traffic.......as opposed to keeping some in your network.
- RickDiculous
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Re: Best way to build a new blog network.
I have 80 blogs and some of them interlink with each other on a one way lever only (A --> B)
I keep those links nich relevant only. At this point, this has not penalized me at all. 10% of my links are from the network and 90% from outside sites
I keep those links nich relevant only. At this point, this has not penalized me at all. 10% of my links are from the network and 90% from outside sites
Re: Best way to build a new blog network.
girlfactory, how you know that your site was penalized? google inform that?
Re: Best way to build a new blog network.
I was just about to ask a same question.samsagaz wrote:girlfactory, how you know that your site was penalized? google inform that?
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I havent had this happen to me yet, but I assume this shows up in the message section of the website that you have registered in the Webmaster Tools section of your Google account. Am I right?
- HowlingWulf
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Re: Best way to build a new blog network.
She might be confusing penalized with the honeymoon period Google gives to new sites.
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Re: Best way to build a new blog network.
Nobody notice you when you get penalized, but you can see it in the traffic, they rarely delete pages or websites from index, unless its pedo stuff and not even then most of the time. Overdone seo gets you less traffic, meaning bad placement in listings for kws.