Requested Trades that are ignored

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PornGuy
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Requested Trades that are ignored

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Ok I have requested a bunc of trades and it seems a lot of them have been ignored.

Thanks to the fast responders..

As for the ones ignored.. Maybe having a system where they can not log in until they acknowledge the ones requested.. Or something??

If they have not logged in within 45 days we cant see them to ask for trades?

Just some thoughts.

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Setting an account automaticly to idle after not logging in for a certain amount of days would be a good option indeed.
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jdoughs
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I just delete them from the Request page after about 2 weeks.
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jdoughs wrote:I just delete them from the Request page after about 2 weeks.
Yeah I`m going to do that to, but knowing that a person hasn't logged in for lets say 30 days might have saved some extra work.;-)
smutnut
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You should be more concerned with people who agree to trades and don't add them. Ignoring requests might just be a courtesy cause God knows I get sick and tired of requests from assholes who aren't offering equal returns and even hiding sites they want links back to
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smutnut wrote: God knows I get sick and tired of requests from assholes who aren't offering equal returns and even hiding sites they want links back to
I hide sites all the time. The reason? Because I have capped the # out outgoing links and I do not want to receive any new trade requests. Makes sense, right?
smutnut
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bunkman wrote:
smutnut wrote: God knows I get sick and tired of requests from assholes who aren't offering equal returns and even hiding sites they want links back to
I hide sites all the time. The reason? Because I have capped the # out outgoing links and I do not want to receive any new trade requests. Makes sense, right?
Well, it doesn't matter any longer becasue they are now locking accounts with too many outstanding trades and there is no way I am adding links before the other guy and waiting for a month for him to get to his.

I'll probably start removing links from this system in fact
smutnut
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smutnut wrote:
bunkman wrote:
smutnut wrote: God knows I get sick and tired of requests from assholes who aren't offering equal returns and even hiding sites they want links back to
I hide sites all the time. The reason? Because I have capped the # out outgoing links and I do not want to receive any new trade requests. Makes sense, right?
Well, it doesn't matter any longer becasue they are now locking accounts with too many outstanding trades and there is no way I am adding links before the other guy and waiting for a month for him to get to his.

I'll probably start removing links from this system in fact
Well, that was easy enough to fix. I just want back and stopped all pending trades and started deleting all the ones I thought were questionable but which I might have found use for later.

Nothing like being backed into a corner for a system to work. Not sure having to respond quicker is doing anything for anyone LOL
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smutnut wrote:Well, that was easy enough to fix. I just want back and stopped all pending trades and started deleting all the ones I thought were questionable but which I might have found use for later.
You mean you actually started to reply to trade requests and removed some that would have just sat their idle for a long time? Seems the system is working perfectly. :)
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jdoughs
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smutnut wrote:
smutnut wrote:
Well, it doesn't matter any longer becasue they are now locking accounts with too many outstanding trades and there is no way I am adding links before the other guy and waiting for a month for him to get to his.

I'll probably start removing links from this system in fact
Well, that was easy enough to fix. I just want back and stopped all pending trades and started deleting all the ones I thought were questionable but which I might have found use for later.

Nothing like being backed into a corner for a system to work. Not sure having to respond quicker is doing anything for anyone LOL
Nobody backed anybody into a corner, you are taking this whole thing and blowing out of proportion.

The system stops you from requesting more links if YOU have more then 10 links to add. Those are links YOU agreed to add, those are not links that the other user has to add.

It has nothing to do with the other party and is completely based on YOUR actions not the other users. No user can get you blocked by not adding your links. Nobody backed you into a corner, unless of course you request links and do not add them.

If someone doesnt add YOUR links they run a good chance of getting locked out (only til they added the links THEY agreed to). And if you link is added and they don't, remove you link, hit checked links, and then Stop the trade.

Take a minute, try to understand the system, then tell us how gay it is..lol
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there is no way I am adding links before the other guy
What if you both of you think the same? Divide by zero.
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jdoughs wrote:
smutnut wrote:
smutnut wrote:
Well, it doesn't matter any longer becasue they are now locking accounts with too many outstanding trades and there is no way I am adding links before the other guy and waiting for a month for him to get to his.

I'll probably start removing links from this system in fact
Well, that was easy enough to fix. I just want back and stopped all pending trades and started deleting all the ones I thought were questionable but which I might have found use for later.

Nothing like being backed into a corner for a system to work. Not sure having to respond quicker is doing anything for anyone LOL
Nobody backed anybody into a corner, you are taking this whole thing and blowing out of proportion.

The system stops you from requesting more links if YOU have more then 10 links to add. Those are links YOU agreed to add, those are not links that the other user has to add.

It has nothing to do with the other party and is completely based on YOUR actions not the other users. No user can get you blocked by not adding your links. Nobody backed you into a corner, unless of course you request links and do not add them.

If someone doesnt add YOUR links they run a good chance of getting locked out (only til they added the links THEY agreed to). And if you link is added and they don't, remove you link, hit checked links, and then Stop the trade.

Take a minute, try to understand the system, then tell us how gay it is..lol
Don't remember calling it gay, but maybe I was drunk. I do that a lot.

Personally I don't mind waiting around some if the person actually ends up getting to it, but I guess if you're going to be locked out then you can't wait. It does affect me because I'm not adding trades before the other person does. I've just had it with that and not only from this system.

By the way, I add links the moment I see them added to me and that's the next morning (when I'm usually checking) just for the record. What I don't do is respoond to trades that are asking me for pr2's to pr0's with only pr0's to return unless i'm launching a new site and need some traffic which means I have to wait. If people don't like that system, then I'm happy to deny their responses on first glance (many more responses than just the ones I mentioned).

I have a fairly decent little network that does me fine without worrying to much about link trading and it's just something new I've been trying without the expected results coming back.

Which brings me to another question while I have here. Is there a legit way to delete, move, or switch trades to another site if you decided you have to many on one particular popular site without getting banned or locked out of your account.

Haven't done it yet, but am pretty sure I will have to soon and want to do it in a civilized cordial fashion and still give a little something back.

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whoops wrote:
there is no way I am adding links before the other guy
What if you both of you think the same? Divide by zero.
LOL, i did think about that so I didn't really want to draw the line publicly like that, but I'm gambling my trades are at least as important as his. I'm running out of room and don't feel like taking up wasted space.

That's just the way I feel.

Also lately I've been getting mostly requests without requesting so it's only fair
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smutnut wrote:Is there a legit way to delete, move, or switch trades to another site if you decided you have to many on one particular popular site without getting banned or locked out of your account.
ONLY with the consent of the person you already made the trade with...
The trade would need to be deleted on both sides and a new trade would be made in its place.
Dropping trades and 'moving things around' defeats the whole purpose of making a deal.

Your idea is much like saying:
How about I sell you a nice house for 1.6 million and then a few weeks later I move you into a 2 bedroom apartment in a bad neighborhood because the nice house has become 'too full' and I feel like changing our deal but keeping your payment?

I don't think you haven given much thought to the fact that a trade has to benefit BOTH people involved... not just your own sites.
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Relentless wrote:
smutnut wrote:Is there a legit way to delete, move, or switch trades to another site if you decided you have to many on one particular popular site without getting banned or locked out of your account.

I don't think you haven given much thought to the fact that a trade has to benefit BOTH people involved... not just your own sites.
If that's the case, you need to start jumping all over these people requesting trades from a PR2 to a PR0 site.

Also aren't you concerned about lifetime contracts? No one leaves links up forever except for rare links in rare cases. What if you sell the domain. What if things change between the domains?

I think you need to think things through little more unless your doing nothing but building link dumps.
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smutnut wrote:If that's the case, you need to start jumping all over these people requesting trades from a PR2 to a PR0 site.
I dont care if someone requests a PR6 link for a PR0 link. That's an easy fix... just deny the request. Also, there are plenty of PR0 and PR1 sites id rather get links from than many PR2 and even PR3 sites I have seen here and elsewhere. PR is not nearly as important as it used to be, or as you seem to think it is... and the difference between PR0 and PR2 these days is practically nonexistent (which is why some many PR0 sites are ranked so high in the SERPS).

What mattes only happens AFTER a deal is made. You can reject all the requests you want. You can ignore requests with no problem either. If you do make a deal for a trade, you are expected to keep that trade compliant with the deal made. Pretty simple concept.
Also aren't you concerned about lifetime contracts? No one leaves links up forever except for rare links in rare cases. What if you sell the domain. What if things change between the domains? I think you need to think things through little more unless your doing nothing but building link dumps.
Yes, eventually the Earth will ice over and humanity will expire and all trades will be broken and the internet won't exist....

Until then, if you make a trade you are expected to do all you can to keep it compliant. In the past I have sold domains that had trades on them. When I do that, I either contact the trading partners to try to work out alternate trades acceptable to them (usually by replacing the link they are losing with a better link or more links than they are losing) or I work out arrangements with the new domain owner to keep the traded links active as part of the sale agreement.

Is that 100% effective, no. However, I have made trades somewhere in the XX,XXX range with X,XXXs of webmasters... and you'd have an awfully hard time finding anyone who feels they got screwed in any way by trading/working with me. If a link got dropped once or twice with good reason from someone who has a track record of 1000s of trades nobody would freak out.... if you do not have that kind of track record and you start dropping trades with any frequency... good luck finding more trading partners.
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kapxxx wrote:
jdoughs wrote:I just delete them from the Request page after about 2 weeks.
Yeah I`m going to do that to, but knowing that a person hasn't logged in for lets say 30 days might have saved some extra work.;-)
I'm fairly new to this system but when I get a request or ask for a trade, before I do, I click their profile to see their last login. If they haven't been around, I don't do the trade.
smutnut
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Relentless wrote:
smutnut wrote:If that's the case, you need to start jumping all over these people requesting trades from a PR2 to a PR0 site.
I dont care if someone requests a PR6 link for a PR0 link. That's an easy fix... just deny the request. Also, there are plenty of PR0 and PR1 sites id rather get links from than many PR2 and even PR3 sites I have seen here and elsewhere. PR is not nearly as important as it used to be, or as you seem to think it is... and the difference between PR0 and PR2 these days is practically nonexistent (which is why some many PR0 sites are ranked so high in the SERPS).

What mattes only happens AFTER a deal is made. You can reject all the requests you want. You can ignore requests with no problem either. If you do make a deal for a trade, you are expected to keep that trade compliant with the deal made. Pretty simple concept.
Also aren't you concerned about lifetime contracts? No one leaves links up forever except for rare links in rare cases. What if you sell the domain. What if things change between the domains? I think you need to think things through little more unless your doing nothing but building link dumps.
Yes, eventually the Earth will ice over and humanity will expire and all trades will be broken and the internet won't exist....

Until then, if you make a trade you are expected to do all you can to keep it compliant. In the past I have sold domains that had trades on them. When I do that, I either contact the trading partners to try to work out alternate trades acceptable to them (usually by replacing the link they are losing with a better link or more links than they are losing) or I work out arrangements with the new domain owner to keep the traded links active as part of the sale agreement.

Is that 100% effective, no. However, I have made trades somewhere in the XX,XXX range with X,XXXs of webmasters... and you'd have an awfully hard time finding anyone who feels they got screwed in any way by trading/working with me. If a link got dropped once or twice with good reason from someone who has a track record of 1000s of trades nobody would freak out.... if you do not have that kind of track record and you start dropping trades with any frequency... good luck finding more trading partners.
I think your saying work something out with the other party after contradicting yourself and saying the type of trade you made doesn't matter even though it's suppose to benefit both parties.

Anyway, my real question is (just to be clear) do you get banned from the system for dumping a trade? Are you able to answer that question or can someone with authority answer that question if you can't? (If so you might as well drop all trades, correct?) You might have sort of answered this too but I'm not sure.

of course I would try and work something out with the person I want to swap or drop the trade with.

Trades and other types of links are removed from sites all the time and I agree I don't yet do it and haven't done it, but I can see the benefit of doing it to make room for others without having to many outgoing links.
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