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Multiple users with the same domain

Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2012 12:00 pm
by pornpf69
I just found out that there is 2 users that have the same domain on their accounts... is it really possible?

Re: Multiple users with the same domain

Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2012 2:18 pm
by webdanger
yes its possible, i reported some but no one did anything.They add domains with www and without on 2 different accounts and try to cheat people, have no idea whats the point but its annoying.

Re: Multiple users with the same domain

Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2012 4:13 pm
by pornpf69
webdanger wrote:yes its possible, i reported some but no one did anything.They add domains with www and without on 2 different accounts and try to cheat people, have no idea whats the point but its annoying.
that is quite annoying... the only thing I can think of is that they try to make you request a link that you already have on their website...

Re: Multiple users with the same domain

Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2012 4:36 pm
by pornpf69
SIMPLE EXAMPLE

User Added Logged IP Address Page (Mouse Over For Titles)
cams-mogul 05-14-10 01-24-12 66.154.16.138 http://camsmogul.com/
seoadult 10-18-11 01-24-12 66.154.16.138 http://www.camsmogul.com/

Re: Multiple users with the same domain

Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 11:21 pm
by vrocks
There is nothing I can do about this because several of us... yes US... do this.

I have many partners for many sites and we typically do this without trying to intentionally cheat anybody. Because of the limitation of having only one account able to effect trades on a particular URL, I and several of my partners do this too.

That way they can also use the same sites we both derive income from to trade here. It also allows me to pay somebody else to do trades for me while I also do trades I want for that domain.

I have seen these two accounts get flagged in the past. Can you show me two trade ID's where they are "screwing" you by doing this? Is it possible that they both made the request to trade the same A => B trade? Is it a conspiracy or an actual problem for them to do so? I can see how you wouldn't want it to happen, but did they do it on purpose?

I personally have tons of trades with cams-mogul, but no trades with seoadult.

Re: Multiple users with the same domain

Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 7:41 am
by webdanger
It can happen to ask for 5 trades from the same ip and then stop because after that is pointless, by having 2 account you can add extra trades, from the same ips without the other party to now. If you have a total of 10 links you can tell but if you have hundred or thousands you can't remember everything.

www or not www domains are supposed to be UNIQUE, its a flaw and it needs to be fixed.

One stupid rule is the impossibility to delete a dropped domain even if you have trades on it. You can just allow that and if they do flag all the trades as link missing.

Re: Multiple users with the same domain

Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 8:43 pm
by vrocks
webdanger wrote:It can happen to ask for 5 trades from the same ip and then stop because after that is pointless, by having 2 account you can add extra trades, from the same ips without the other party to now. If you have a total of 10 links you can tell but if you have hundred or thousands you can't remember everything.

www or not www domains are supposed to be UNIQUE, its a flaw and it needs to be fixed.

One stupid rule is the impossibility to delete a dropped domain even if you have trades on it. You can just allow that and if they do flag all the trades as link missing.
Have to agree with you on the domain deletion part... Can be a huge pain when selling a domain. The new owner can't use the domain until your trade partners cancel their trades... I have about 18 trades waiting for the partner to cancel the trade... They never respond...

Perhaps we can create another trade "type"... this type would hardcode the trade and no longer link by "ID"'s... Then the old partner can know they need to cancel it and the old owner can remove it from their account, while the new one can add it and start trading...

Re: Multiple users with the same domain

Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2012 5:41 pm
by pornpf69
vrocks wrote:Can you show me two trade ID's where they are "screwing" you by doing this? Is it possible that they both made the request to trade the same A => B trade? Is it a conspiracy or an actual problem for them to do so? I can see how you wouldn't want it to happen, but did they do it on purpose?
I generally look for a website that fits my needs... so if the domain is used by multiple users you can get "screwed" because YOU request a link back to a website that you have already requested a link back for from a different user that has the same domain on his/her account... I am not sure I was able to explain what I think...

now completely changing subject: what is the point of adding more than one category to a website if you are not able to see all the categories from that website when you are going to request a trade?

Re: Multiple users with the same domain

Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2012 9:04 pm
by vrocks
pornpf69 wrote:
vrocks wrote:Can you show me two trade ID's where they are "screwing" you by doing this? Is it possible that they both made the request to trade the same A => B trade? Is it a conspiracy or an actual problem for them to do so? I can see how you wouldn't want it to happen, but did they do it on purpose?
I generally look for a website that fits my needs... so if the domain is used by multiple users you can get "screwed" because YOU request a link back to a website that you have already requested a link back for from a different user that has the same domain on his/her account... I am not sure I was able to explain what I think...

now completely changing subject: what is the point of adding more than one category to a website if you are not able to see all the categories from that website when you are going to request a trade?
Multiple categories are for the Find Trades screen. The domain shows up under solo models, teens, small tits, etc...

Re: Multiple users with the same domain

Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 1:44 pm
by pornpf69
vrocks wrote:
pornpf69 wrote:
vrocks wrote:Can you show me two trade ID's where they are "screwing" you by doing this? Is it possible that they both made the request to trade the same A => B trade? Is it a conspiracy or an actual problem for them to do so? I can see how you wouldn't want it to happen, but did they do it on purpose?
I generally look for a website that fits my needs... so if the domain is used by multiple users you can get "screwed" because YOU request a link back to a website that you have already requested a link back for from a different user that has the same domain on his/her account... I am not sure I was able to explain what I think...

now completely changing subject: what is the point of adding more than one category to a website if you are not able to see all the categories from that website when you are going to request a trade?
Multiple categories are for the Find Trades screen. The domain shows up under solo models, teens, small tits, etc...
but when you are on a trade and you have their websites listed you can only see ONE of the categories... for example I have some BDSM sites that are not interesting for those who promote FEMDOM because my BDSM sites are with SHEMALES... I generally look for the categories 1st, only then I go check for the websites... many people have SHEMALE sites set the HARDCORE...
I hope that you understand what I mean...

Re: Multiple users with the same domain

Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 4:15 pm
by vrocks
Yes... I see your point, but don't see it as a wide spread problem. For the most part a domain name or page URL often lets you know this:

http://www.hardcoretgp.com/shemale.html
http://www.hardcoretgp.com/stockings.html

I would prefer that this person didn't put his shemale or stockings in hardcore in the first place.

But I also can look past it pretty easily. I know Jdoughs really didn't want to implement multiple categories just for this reason. And he didn't want to police it either, and neither do I... He was basically very active on the ban button on issues like this. So eventually I will probably implement something where I have a warning button and a ban button right next to each other. But for now I am just going to let people keep hanging themselves so that when I use it, the evidence of their retardedness is evident.

Re: Multiple users with the same domain

Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2012 2:06 pm
by pornpf69
vrocks wrote:Yes... I see your point, but don't see it as a wide spread problem. For the most part a domain name or page URL often lets you know this:

http://www.hardcoretgp.com/shemale.html
http://www.hardcoretgp.com/stockings.html

I would prefer that this person didn't put his shemale or stockings in hardcore in the first place.

But I also can look past it pretty easily. I know Jdoughs really didn't want to implement multiple categories just for this reason. And he didn't want to police it either, and neither do I... He was basically very active on the ban button on issues like this. So eventually I will probably implement something where I have a warning button and a ban button right next to each other. But for now I am just going to let people keep hanging themselves so that when I use it, the evidence of their retardedness is evident.
it would be nice if there was something like: MAIN CATEGORY and then you could set other categories, but your site would show only the MAIN CATEGORY when you are on the profile page

Re: Multiple users with the same domain

Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 1:48 am
by vrocks
pornpf69 wrote:
vrocks wrote:Yes... I see your point, but don't see it as a wide spread problem. For the most part a domain name or page URL often lets you know this:

http://www.hardcoretgp.com/shemale.html
http://www.hardcoretgp.com/stockings.html

I would prefer that this person didn't put his shemale or stockings in hardcore in the first place.

But I also can look past it pretty easily. I know Jdoughs really didn't want to implement multiple categories just for this reason. And he didn't want to police it either, and neither do I... He was basically very active on the ban button on issues like this. So eventually I will probably implement something where I have a warning button and a ban button right next to each other. But for now I am just going to let people keep hanging themselves so that when I use it, the evidence of their retardedness is evident.
it would be nice if there was something like: MAIN CATEGORY and then you could set other categories, but your site would show only the MAIN CATEGORY when you are on the profile page

Great suggestion.. I don't multi-category many of my sites just for this reason...

If I owned bigcocksgoanal.com and preferred big cocks over anal I be screwed... figuratively...