Time to start charging a monthly for this system

[PornGuy]

Fuck its getting annoying with people dropping like flies. I have had at least 6 trades this past 2 weeks where the guys lost the domains. Or all the searches return thousands of subdomains or free blog host domains.

Money means filters and getting rid of people that dont know what they are doing or just play at it.

PG

[fullporno]

yes the pages they offer to get your link back are crap, subdomain,free blogs or pages with 300+ out links. I cancelled some trade requests but they put a new request the same day so now i'm accepting them but request a link back from all their pages listed. I wonder if they accept these idiot requests =D

[3xpreview]

If they accept your idiot requests you'll get a lot of crappy backlinks and the result may be worse than you won't get any links from them. I think less but relevant and good quality backlinks are much more useful.
I've deleted about half of my trades recently (after Penguin was announced) and I can say it results more traffic from the search engines. And I agree with Pornguy that it can be very annoying when you waste your time to delete links because the partnersite's domain has expired or just simple gone... The other annoying habit is when users cannot understand the words in your profile: ONLY RELEVANT NICHE! I don't accept the 90% of the requests because those are irrelevant or shitty 5-post-nothing-else, non-updated sites.

[major48]

Well I know I still have a loong way to go but I have been trying to fix all of the foolish things I did previously when I didnt know any better. Been ending trades with footer links. Watching the niche more closely. I just hate to annoy people by stopping all those trades but It just has to be done. I must be doing something correct because some of my sites are slowly seeing more search engine traffic and its more than just google now.

[seomedia]

Trust me when I tell you that only a handful of us will be willing to pay for this service, once the paid version (if it ever will) drops into action.
So there must be some serious limitations to them that think that LS is their right and not a free tool.
Drastic limitations on how many trades they can request ( I would say 3 a day) and that they need to clear out their inbonding request list and close off trades before they can request a single trade.

[fullporno]

there are a lot of ways to buy quality backlinks to your site without linking back to other sites. If this site becomes a paid service more people will buy paid links and less will trade because it keeps your site cleaner with less links.

options to offer paid service i prefer:

free members can add up to 50 links, upgraded unlimited (or any number)
free members have no filters, upgraded members can fiter out free blogs,subdomains, search on max # outlinks,...

these ways people still can trade free and make it easy to serious people to filter out the crap sites for easy trade finding.

[wind4me]

paid service will leave only few people trading, I am pretty sure you would regret that. Although vrocks was talking about paid option for extra features etc, that may work

[seomedia]

paid service will leave only few people trading, I am pretty sure you would regret that. Although vrocks was talking about paid option for extra features etc, that may work

From your words you let us understand that you'll be one not willing to pay for this service, so I should regret not being able to trade with a wannabe like you (LOL).

At this time I get around 15% of my backlinking from Linkspun it was about 6 months ago 30 to 35%. I have 6 accounts but use 2 the other 4 I will from time to time due to these factors: The Turks that have German sites have flooded it with fucking shit (they should all be confined into the forighn category), not to mention the free host sites have taken over, people that have one site but post 950 pages and all of a sudden over 40 webmasters have sites that are weeks old with PR2 or more.

A major clean up, some serious banning and paid service with drastic limitations to anyone not willing to put their hand in their pocket. Enough fucking said!

[wind4me]

I am saying that you would end up trading with few "cool kids" that way, in hat case you won't even need linkspun, just have a network of trusted people you trade with.
If you noticed there is always you and few others that are pushing paid service (you are the only one that is pushing it that hard), those few and will be trading between themselves

And as vrocks previously stated there will not be any drastic limitations to free members. Just some good extra stuff for paid members.

As for wannabes - just block wannabes like me and you won't have problems.

You fail to understand that only small percentage of members are hardcore like you and by limiting "wannabes" you are limiting not only those with crappy subdomains, but also those with good sites.

[Bilinda]

Frankly I'm finding that with changes in SEO getting links from other sites in their sidebars hurts more than helps these days. I've stopped all trades and any new sites I make I will not be using any free or paid link sites like this one anymore.

Things change and link swapping is one of them. My best sites that rank the best have the least backlinks from places like this. It use to work well but like lots of other things it no longer does.

[3xpreview]

Frankly I'm finding that with changes in SEO getting links from other sites in their sidebars hurts more than helps these days. I've stopped all trades and any new sites I make I will not be using any free or paid link sites like this one anymore.

Things change and link swapping is one of them. My best sites that rank the best have the least backlinks from places like this. It use to work well but like lots of other things it no longer does.

I've experienced the same. I built new sites and I haven't sent them into bloglists and toplists, I just giva links them from my own sites and it looks they have more traffic after weeks from Google than other even 2-3 year old sites of mines.

[webdanger]

And i can give you many examples where this system helped some sites and other did not. And the site with the vast majority of links from linkspun is top 3 for a big kws. So you need to have everything to be honest, you just can't keep up with google, some will go down some will stay up, its all about when not if.

[vrocks]

I have a lot of high SERPs on sites that I have only received links on LS. I do agree though that the days of just slapping 100 trades on a URL and getting #1 are over.

[ristac]

I am guilty of allowing domains to expire, please let me explain though... I had over 200 domains, google hit me like everyone else very hard, my income went through the floor almost over night and I needed to take urgent action. I cancelled one of my dedicated hosts and decided to let domains expire that were not earning anything or had virtually no traffic. My aim is to get down to 100 domains, if I am not earning enough I need to cut down my expenses.

I know it was WRONG of me not to come on here and explain to each and every trade but my back was against the wall and I had more pressing issues to sort out. Not only that I logged on and saw I had 111 missing links to my sites from other members, I just assumed we were all in the same boat. I checked other forums and webmasters were and still are dropping like flies. If I was to contact everyone who had dropped a link as well as contact everyone and advise them of my situation it would have took me several hours a day. Hours that I have been spending securing what I have left and trying to salvage sites worth salvaging.

Again I know it was wrong of me, I just assumed we were all in the same boat, my trades look like a railroad wreckage at the moment. I will clean it all up and hopefully rebuild a few trades, I just expect a lot more to drop away over the next few months and I really haven't the time to look at the 111 trades I have missing from others.

As for a paid system sorry you would have to count me out.

[vrocks]

The paid system would still have a free one where people could still do basically what they do now.

While I have seen a large number of webmasters letting their domains go I have also seen a core group that don't. They have sites that fall within Google's terms of service. In most cases they are what Google wants to see. It is this core group that would like to insulate themselves from the masses. They spend more time mopping up dead trades then being able to make new ones.

I have been struggling myself to keep my trades above the 1700 mark. Every time I add 50 more to the mix I have 50 drop. If those numbers fluctuate then I either stay above 1700 or fall to my current spot of 1650.

I don't need someone to tell me their domain has died. I can see it in my errors page. Linkspun tells me that kind of information. What boggles my mind is why most of you don't fire sale the ones you are going to drop in our buy/sell. You could be taking something you were going to drop and turning it into a $5 to $50 a domain, site included, fire sale making you money. Money you could use to keep the domains you really don't want to let go.

Many of the domains I bought in 2012 were bought in such sales. Some here. Some on ICQ. Some on other boards. Often I would spend $100 snatching up 10 sites and then turn them into money makers with a few tweaks.

Anywho... Good luck!

[seomedia]

The paid system would still have a free one where people could still do basically what they do now.

While I have seen a large number of webmasters letting their domains go I have also seen a core group that don't. They have sites that fall within Google's terms of service. In most cases they are what Google wants to see. It is this core group that would like to insulate themselves from the masses. They spend more time mopping up dead trades then being able to make new ones.

I have been struggling myself to keep my trades above the 1700 mark. Every time I add 50 more to the mix I have 50 drop. If those numbers fluctuate then I either stay above 1700 or fall to my current spot of 1650.

I don't need someone to tell me their domain has died. I can see it in my errors page. Linkspun tells me that kind of information. What boggles my mind is why most of you don't fire sale the ones you are going to drop in our buy/sell. You could be taking something you were going to drop and turning it into a $5 to $50 a domain, site included, fire sale making you money. Money you could use to keep the domains you really don't want to let go.

Many of the domains I bought in 2012 were bought in such sales. Some here. Some on ICQ. Some on other boards. Often I would spend $100 snatching up 10 sites and then turn them into money makers with a few tweaks.

Anywho... Good luck!

Them that drop trades without warning should be life banned

[seomedia]

Them that drop trades without warning should be life banned

This week alone I've had 3 newbs drop trades after a few days without warning, making everyone pay a small fee for now will get rid of these fucking bastards!
Set it up I'm willing to pay as long as we can get rid of these sons of fucking cunts asap.

[3xpreview]

It really takes some time to check a lot of totally irrelevant and worthless requests, and delete links because the partner's domain has expired or his/her account has been suspended at the hosting company or something else... I think we could spend this time much more useful instead.
Maybe a small charging can help to avoid these problems.